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Chris Hayes Totally Overthinks the Word "Hero"
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"The Rachel Maddow Show" posted all-time ratings lows in August, in a month that continued a ratings plunge that has prevailed throughout much of the year.
The show was down 43% in total viewers and 47% in the key 25-54 age demographic, respectively, from August 2012.
~ Business Insider
For his part, (Chris) Hayes was blunt—"obviously, the numbers are bad right now"—but he cautioned against making any drastic changes based on what worked on any given evening.
Looking at ratings data "tickles the worst instincts human beings have on causal inference," he said, in a Hayesian answer if ever there was one.
~ New Yorker via Huffington Post
The decisions that Maddow makes go a long way toward defining what MSNBC is, too. Phil Griffin, the president, calls Maddow “our quarterback,” the person who sets the tone for the network. A few years ago, MSNBC had a different quarterback: Keith Olbermann, a former ESPN anchor who rose to fame during the Bush years, delivering urbane, fuguelike denunciations of a President who was sometimes known, on his show, as “you, sir.” Olbermann and MSNBC agreed to a no-fault divorce in early 2011, and Griffin has spent the past two and a half years reinventing the network in Maddow’s image.
~ The New Yorker
Switch O'Donnell and Hayes and 8PM slot is fixed. Hayes had a good show in terms of content, but presentation needs a little more work. Personality transplant would be perfect.
~ trollsbwild on Huff Post
I stopped watching Rachel because she says everything three times, and her voice gets shrill.
~ Tammany on Huff Post
From "An Open Letter to Chris Hayes" by Desert Crone NM
. . . Pay attention carefully to this. You and your buddies have always misidentified President Obama's base. We ordinary common folk are his base, not the the likes of Hamsher, Greenwald, Moore, Adam Green, and Sirota. They and you have never spoken for the base. Guess who MSNBC's audience is? President Obama's base. That's right, the Obamabots and Obamatrons who mindlessly follow dear leader. Obamabots are just like I am although I happen to be an old white woman. Even though Obamabots cut across all spectrums of American life, young, old, black, white, Latino, Asian-American, Native American, we share many similarities. We are educated, and we are activists. We are politically astute and knowledgeable.
We also recognize bullshit when we see or hear it. The mistaken notion is that we never have any differences with President Obama, which is just absurd. Of course we would have differences with President Obama. What we object to is unfair and unfounded criticism of the President. What we object to are the vitriolic tempered tantrums thrown by so many of the professional left and libertarians. We object to unreasonable expectations. We object to half-truths and lies. We don't object to fair criticism contrary to what you and your fellows may think.
From Politicus USA
The decision that started their decline was the departure of Keith Olbermann from the network. MSNBC head Phil Griffin thought that he could replace Olbermann with Lawrence O’Donnell. That decision spectacularly failed, but his next choice for the timeslot would prove to be more of a winner. Ed Schulz was the perfect fit for MSNBC’s 8 PM. His program had a bit of the sort of emotion and tone that Olbermann’s did. MSNBC rose to second in the cable news ratings. Occasionally, they even beat ratings leader Fox News.
However, earlier this year Phil Griffin made his second bad decision. Griffin decided that Schultz’s old school liberalism didn’t fit with the primetime lineup that he wanted to build. Griffin wanted a clone army of Maddow wonk nerds in primetime, and the blustery blue collar Schultz didn’t fit the bill. This resulted in Ed being shuffled off to the weekends to make room for Griffin’s third bad decision.
In his quest for hipper and younger viewers, Griffin installed Chris Hayes as the new 8 PM host. The Hayes that was smooth on his weekend morning show was quickly replaced by a host that has been at times painful to watch. Chris Hayes is the round peg that MSNBC keeps trying to fit into the square hole. It isn’t working. Nearly 30% of the viewers who tuned in for Ed have tuned out Chris Hayes. The flood of new young viewers hasn’t materialized, and Hayes is looking more and more like the television equivalent of a death row inmate.
What Would Keith Olbermann Do - or Say?
This is sarcasm, yes? RT @JonahsSeafood Very, Very impressive #ratings @msnbc. Especially without the help o… http://t.co/zcS67Cfojo
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 3, 2013
@KeithOlbermann That supposed to be a snipe against Maddow? Thought better of you than that.
— Janine Murdock (@Mishyana) July 3, 2013
@Mishyana It's about the collapse of that network. I don't know anything about her any more; she hasn't bothered to speak to me since I left
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 3, 2013
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Handwriting on the Walls of MSNBC
Prophetic Tweets from Earlier This Year:
#p2 MT.@aspirational12: True reason for @MSNBC's drop: Sharp turn to right w/GOP/Libertarian/emoprog memes featured in 90% of their programs
— ✨✨TrAcEy✌SoUnDsOfF✨✨ (@Here_ISound_Off) May 27, 2013
Ratings fail @msnbc!!! Losing your base with all the EMOProg hosts.
— Lefty Chelle (@chellegaylor24) May 29, 2013
MSNBC is suffering because they push emoprog and RW narraratives, thus turning off PBO's real base. Pt. 5
— aspirational12 (@aspirational12) May 27, 2013
Memo to @msnbc remember you tried to go emoprog with @cenkuygur ? Bleeding viewers for a niche isn't worth it.
— John Conner (@MotorCityLib) June 11, 2013
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That Click You Hear is the Obamabot Army
@TheLastWord @chrislhayes @SteveKornacki @finneyk @CapehartJ In other words, Emoprog central. Our response: *CLICK*
— aspirational12 (@aspirational12) August 29, 2013
Whoever is slipping acid into the coffee at the offices of @msnbc and the offices of their emoprog, white privilege hosts…I salute you
— Moses (@Lexvegaskid) August 27, 2013
Shit I'd even be happy for an emoprog power hour, with Maddow & Hayes whining about drones & NSA, if it were just the 1 hour MT .@msnbc
— Andie the Obamanista (@andie_walsh) August 30, 2013
So, @Lawrence if you U r stacking your show with #Emoprog #Naderites Done with U @TheLastWord fades in ratings like @Maddow @chrislhayes
— Bill R (@cmpnwtr) August 30, 2013
The fact that Maddow talks 24/7 about Greenwald narratives on the United States as a pariah state and trashed Pres.Obama explain the ratings
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) August 29, 2013
LOL I love it. Al Sharpton beating Maddow in ratings now. WOW @MSNBC http://t.co/SD6UGXnIjQ
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) August 29, 2013
Olbermann's once top 10 8 PM cable news slot now tanks to 20th under Emoprog Chris Hayes http://t.co/ODpGd1g3c5
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) August 29, 2013
The people in my TL reminding me of why I have given up on Rachel Maddow's show.
— symmetry11 (@symmetry11) August 28, 2013
@symmetry11 Gave up on @Maddow months ago. Obama basher and emoprog extraordinaire
— Bonnie Hussein Obama (@BJHare) August 28, 2013
@SnarkAmendment @BJHare @MHPshow @msnbc @symmetry11 @maddow is an Emoprog. On the eve of MLK her top story on civil rights: "Gays in GOP"
— Herb................ (@HerbertjeJames) August 28, 2013
So @maddow wants to know what is Obama's rush to war that he's been considering for the last 3 years.
— SportsGirl101 (@Arianna8927) August 30, 2013
@Arianna8927 @maddow Weren't some MSNBC folks attacking PBO for several months for inaction on Syria (ahem - Alex Wagner)? Emoprog amnesia.
— Theo67 (@glomad67) August 30, 2013
Guess MSNBC is permanently off my line up -Ed has followed hayes and Maddow and got on crazy train.
— Chicago Dem (@Chicago6611) August 30, 2013
@Chicago6611 as ratings plummet they veer ever-farther left. Someone evidently believes there are viewers waaaaay out there on the fringe.
— Barry Shiller (@barryshiller) August 30, 2013
From @NewYorker: ".@MSNBC Tries to Figure Out What Liberals Really Want": http://t.co/9DlpDyCmRl
— Andie the Obamanista (@andie_walsh) September 1, 2013
"So far, Hayes has avoided doing anything so controversial in his new slot." Umm...how about Greenwald/ Snowden?
— Andie the Obamanista (@andie_walsh) September 1, 2013
"@Hardball_Chris might start seeming less like a @Maddow lead-in & more like a replacement - a painless way to end the Hayes experiment"
— Andie the Obamanista (@andie_walsh) September 1, 2013
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