Showing posts with label christianity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label christianity. Show all posts

Sunday, June 7, 2015

Duggar Sisters Downplay Abuse from Brother

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The Duggar Denial continued on Friday night as the sisters of Josh Duggar took to Fox News and sought to minimize the impact of his abuse.



From Zerofiltered
Jessa Duggar said her brother was “a young boy in puberty” who was “a little too curious about girls.”
After the fondling, the sisters said, their parents restricted the children from playing games like hide and seek and placed locks on bedrooms where the girls and boys slept separately. Jill Duggar said she was 12 when the abuse occurred, and Jessa Duggar said she was 9 or 10. Both women are now married.
Jessa Duggar said that she wanted to defend her brother against people who call him a child molester, pedophile or rapist. She said people can get angry at her for saying this is overboard, “but I can say this because I was one of the victims.”
“He made some bad choices,” she said. “But really the extent of it was mild, inappropriate touching, on fully clothed victims, most of it while girls were sleeping.”



Josh was "sly and subtle" which is another way of saying he was creeping around like a devious deviant.

Transcript Via Alternet
JESSA DUGGAR SEEWALD: No. I think for us our situation is so different than most girls in that he was — he’s very subtle anyway. Like he knew in his mind my actions are wrong and I have bad intentions but he was very sly, like the girls didn’t catch on, you know. It was like, okay, if you catch the girl sleeping, you know, like a quick feel or whatever. Or it’s like, you know, if you’re just not really aware, you know, in the situation that happened when the girls were awake, it’s like they weren’t aware what was happening. It was very subtle. And so I think that for us it’s like, okay, we realize this is serious — but at the same time it wasn’t like a horror story or like this terrible thing.

And this unintentionally tragic interchange :(

KELLY: . . . What were the safeguards that were put into place just to make sure?

JILL DUGGAR DILLARD: I was going to say not, you know, being alone. My parents said, okay, we’re not going to do this hide and seek thing where two people go off and hide together — and not baby-sitting the girls.

KELLY: At night in your room?

DILLARD: Locks on the doors, you know, everybody’s in bed, girls in the girls’ room, boys in the boys’ room. And so, yes. And as a mother now, I look back and I think, you know, my parents did such an amazing job. For me, even when we went through the DHS investigation, they complimented my parents on what an amazing job they did through that process. And so, I think not only taking the legal actions that they did and then going the extra mile and I see as a mom I hope that I can set the same safeguards in my family that they did and, you know, reaching the heart of their children. And not only trying to take care of Josh but us girls.











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Thursday, June 4, 2015

Excuses, Excuses ~ The Duggar Interview on Fox

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The Duggar parents were interviewed by Fox host Megyn Kelly last night, and it was pretty much a train wreck. In their world of delusions, the Duggar parents think if they keep repeating that their son Josh is a "reformed" child molester - as if that is even possible - then the fans will believe and help them keep their show on The Learning Channel.

Of course they chose the sympathetic Fox News for the interview - the channel least likely to call them out on bullsh*t.

And if the parents' intervew wasn't bad enough, some of the Duggar girls who were victimized as children have also been interviewed by Kelly, and that will be broadcast this Friday. Of course these brainwashed young ladies are making excuses for Big Brother, saying folks should just chill out over Josh Duggar's predatory nature. Jesus forgave him, blah blah, and so did they.

According to their Daddy Jim-Bob Duggar on Fox, the girls "didn't know anything about it because they were asleep" and the touching was mostly "on top of their clothes." So what? That is still rape, you idiot! I think any kids still at home with these people are at risk, and it would be great if the state of Arkansas would get a clue and rescue them.

One of the worst questions asked by Kelly was whether the Duggars felt they were making a "Sophie's Choice," referring to the referring to the 1982 Film and William Styron's novel about a woman in a concentration camp having to choose to save one child or another. What Kelly missed with that question is that in "Sophie's Choice," both children were innocent victims, but in the case of the Duggars, one child was molesting the other children. Josh Duggar wasn't innocent, and it happened multiple times. The protection given by his parents was as much to save their own reputations and TV show as it was to save their firstborn son, while throwing the daughters under the bus. There is still no mention of how much counseling these very young girls were given, or how devastated they were. It's all about the parents and Josh - the true victims of "Christian Bashing" according to Kelly. It's beyond the beyond of the beyond!!!!

From Fox News
“I think as parents, we felt we’re failures, you know?” Duggar said as she sat down with her husband Jim Bob at their Arkansas home for an exclusive interview on “The Kelly File.”
Asked by Kelly if they thought the backlash against the family had been greater because of what they stood for, including their Christian beliefs, Jim Bob replied, “I think, you know what, Christianity is not about being perfect or about being a perfect family, but it’s actually about being forgiven….
“People on the outside think, ‘well Christians are supposed to be perfect…’ No, you know what, all of us as Christians we struggle every day.”
. . . “As parents we were trying to do the best thing we knew how,” Michelle said.
. . . Asked why they would launch a television show in 2008 with this episode in the family background, Jim Bob replied, “we had nothing to hide. We’d taken care of all that years before.”

From New York Times
Ms. Kelly also spoke to two of the sisters, Jessa Seewald and Jill Dillard. That interview will air on Friday.
In a clip from Fox News, Ms. Seewald said in the interview that she was one of the victims and that what Josh did was “very wrong.”
“I do want to speak up in his defense against people who are calling him a child molester or a pedophile or a rapist,” she (his sister) said.
“I’m like, that is so overboard and a lie, really,” she added. “I mean people get mad at me for saying that, but I can say this because I was one of the victims.”














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Monday, January 26, 2015

"Uncle Sugar" Huckabee Ordains Himself the Chosen One ~ Updated

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Radio and Fox News Personality Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas and former GOP candidate wannabe, is running for President ... again. And Uncle Sugar is crazier than ever, spouting all kinds of nonsense. God has called him to be President . . . again. This should be fun!

Huckabee once again feels he is The Chosen One, ordained by God, unlike the other fifteen GOP guys (including Santorum, Romney, Bush, etc) and gal (Sarah Palin) who believe THEY are the chosen ones.

. . . whether it is me or someone else and I do ask people to pray because for me... this is not just a political or financial decision, it is a spiritual decision. The only thing worse than not being elected president would be to be elected president without God’s blessing; I can’t think of a worse place in the world to be than in the Oval Office without God’s hand upon you. I’d rather not get near the place. But if that’s a purpose then so be it and that’s my prayer.
~ Mike Huckabee, The Chosen One

And he's tossing around some new terms to show his cognitive dissonance, like "secular theocracy" to describe the United States. Huh? That's an oxymoron, moron!

From Talking Points Memo
"We cannot survive as a republic if we do not become, once again, a God-centered nation that understands that our laws do not come from man, they come from God," he said on the show "Life Today."
When Huckabee added that he wasn't demanding a theocracy, host James Robison said, "We have a theocracy right now. It's a secular theocracy."
"That's it!" Huckabee said, describing the current political order as "humanistic, secular, atheistic, even antagonistic toward Christian faith."




Update: Here is Huckabee spouting nonsense at the Iowa Freedom Summit last weekend:

"Washington D.C. has become the Roach Motel - people go in, but they never come out"
(But he wants voters to send him there, right?)

And at 3:42 on the video, he rambles about killing pigs and making sausage. huh?

. . . governing America isn't always easy. It has been said that there are two things you should never see. You should never see a law or a sausage made. I have seen both. But I can attest to the fact that neither are very pretty. And in the case of a sausage, you in Iowa get this the way no one else in America does. But if you want some sausage, you gotta kill some pigs. And folks, there are alot of people in America who want the sausage, but they don't want to kill the pigs. We need to do some pig-killin'. To get to the sausage.



Huckabee just wrote a book called God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy. No, that isn't a joke or a parody from The Onion. In this alliterative tome, Huckleberry apparently rants about the singer Beyonce and her husband Jay-Z, both personal friends of the Obama family. What a great way to start a Presidential campaign - offend all the Beyonce fans in the world, and most of the black voters in the world, and anyone who believes that kids should listen to music they like. Yeah, that will work out well for him.

Huckabee may have a point, though. Remember all those Presidents who were elected after telling parents to burn Elvis and Beatle records? Oh wait . . . that never worked. But please, proceed, Chosen One!

From Atlanta Black Star
Huckabee slammed Jay-Z as a “pimp” for “exploiting” his wife, referred to Beyonce’s music as “trash” and said their performances together were nothing short of “foreplay” that needed to be saved “for the privacy of their bedroom.”
Huckabee’s new book titled “God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy” will be hitting the shelves soon, and it’s already garnered a lot of attention for his decision to dedicate quite a bit of space in the book to sharing his opinion of Jay-Z and Beyonce.
For those still trying to figure out why the presumed presidential hopeful for the Republican Party even decided to comment on the couple, it’s his way of slamming President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama’s character because they are friends with Beyonce and Jay-Z.
That alone is an interesting choice and train of thought on Huckabee’s behalf, but his criticisms of the superstar couple are really what has most people scratching their heads.

“Does it occur to him that he is arguably crossing the line from husband to pimp by exploiting his wife as a sex object,” Huckabee wrote of Jay-Z.
He then took aim at Beyonce, writing that she, “must have been confused when she agreed to humiliate herself by performing in a way that prompted this comment from author Charlotte Hays …’Honestly, I didn’t want to watch Jay-Z and Beyonce’s foreplay.’ ”

From MSNBC
In a recent interview with People magazine, Huckabee skewers President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama’s parenting skills because they allow their teenage daughters Malia and Sasha to listen to the “Drunk In Love” singer.
After conceding that the Obamas “are excellent and exemplary parents in many ways,” the conservative former Arkansas governor said ”I don’t understand how on one hand they can be such doting parents and so careful about the intake of everything – how much broccoli they eat and where they go to school and making sure they’re kind of sheltered and shielded from so many things – and yet they don’t see anything that might not be suitable for either a preteen or a teen in some of the lyrical content and choreography of Beyoncé, who has sort of a regular key to the door [of the White House].”

But, but . . . Uncle Sugar is good friends with insidious Obama-hater and Gun Nut, Ted Nugent, and has even played "Cat Scratch Fever" with him on the guitar.



Jon Stewart called Huckabee out on this on The Daily Show. But Huck shrugged it off because he is a colossal hypocrite!

“Young girls want to be like her,” said Huckabee. “Do you know any parent who has a daughter, that says, 'Honey, if you make really good grades, some day when you're 12 or 13 we'll get you your own stripper pole?'”

“I think that's diminishing to Beyonce in a way that's outrageous,” said Stewart. “All this stuff about the culture, and it's so insidious—you don't have to do that.”

That was Stewart's cue to play a clip from Huckabee's recently ended Fox News show, where the erstwhile presidential candidate accompanied Ted Nugent on a rendition of “Cat Scratch Fever,” a typically unsubtle Nugent love song.
“You excuse of his type of crudeness because you agree with his stance on firearms,” said Stewart. “You don't excuse Beyonce because she seems alien to you. Maybe the problem is Bubba is in a bubble.”

Huckabee was ready for this. (He should have been; the “what about Nugent?” counterattack is almost a cliche.)
“When Ted Nugent did that song, 1978, never got nominated for Grammy, never performed it on national television,” said Huckabee. “In fact, do you know what the song of the year was? It was a tie between 'Evergreen' and 'You Light Up My Life' and John Denver hosted the Grammys.”

Huckabee again defended himself on ABC's The View, but an old friend of Beyonce's just happened to be there - Michelle Williams, her band-mate from Destiny's Child. And she called Huckabee out on his remarks in a much kinder way than he deserved!




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Monday, June 30, 2014

Emotional Reactions to SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Verdict

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The Supreme Court ruled in the Hobby Lobby case that Corporations are allowed to be called religious entities, and therefore are exempt from laws concerning birth control. The Right Wing is rejoicing, because they think this is the next step in overturning Roe v. Wade and making Abortion illegal. Somehow their small minds have morphed birth control into abortion, even if no eggs are ever fertilized. Somewhere Rick Santorum is popping bottles and waving a Bible in the air. The stupid injustice of this ruling burns our country.

If health care is for everyone thanks to ACA, and birth control is supposed to be free for all women, then why should it matter where you work or what your boss thinks about your private choices?

SCOTUS and Hobby Lobby should beware the wrath of women. There are more of us in this country than religious fanatics. People will boycott Hobby Lobby in the short term, but hopefully women will line up to vote in both 2014 and 2016 so that a Supreme change can happen in the future.

Other companies will use this ruling to cut costs by suddenly finding religion, which is a shame for all their female employees. The slippery slope is that these companies will keep trying to push the envelope further and further with their hope of a forced-pregnancy white-male-authoritarian all-Christian America.


From Think Progress
If you’re one of the estimated 14,000 individuals who work at Hobby Lobby or Conestoga Wood — the companies who represented the two plaintiffs in the case — then you’re most immediately affected by Monday’s decision. Your employers no longer have to cover several types of birth control that they’re opposed to.

Both companies object to covering emergency contraception, which they falsely claim is a type of abortion despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. Hobby Lobby’s owners also take issue with two forms of intrauterine devices (IUDs), long lasting forms of birth control inserted in the uterus, for the same unscientific reason. So the workers employed by those businesses won’t be able to use their insurance coverage for those types of birth control anymore. They’ll presumably be able to continue using their health plans for other methods, like hormonal birth control pills, that their bosses don’t have a problem with.

But even if you don’t work at Hobby Lobby or Conestoga Wood, there’s a chance that your birth control coverage may be put into question. More than 70 other companies also sued for the right to stop following Obamacare’s contraceptive provision. According to the National Women’s Law Center, 48 of those cases are still pending. Now that the Court has sided with Hobby Lobby, it will be much easier for some of those companies to win their suits and opt out of covering certain types of contraception.

On Hardball last night, the Attorney for Hobby Lobby's Green family wouldn't say if they are satisfied with Justice Alito's "remedy" of letting the government cover female employees with the types of objectionable birth control. Watch attorney Lori Windham waffle on the question at about 8:07:



Rachel Maddow talked about the so-called "narrow scope" of the ruling. Alito says that groups such as Jehovah Witnesses can't use it to limit blood transfusions, or vaccines, or mental health, etc. But some other corporations wish to object to ALL birth control, so in the future the ruling will probably allow almost any restriction by employers based on THEIR religious beliefs, regardless of the "burden" on the employees.


















































































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Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Sarah Palin's Inquisition ~ Let's "Baptize" Terrorists With Waterboarding

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Oh, Sarah Palin - there she goes again. When she isn't shooting off a gun she is shooting off her mouth. This Gun-Loving Mama Grizzly who thinks them Libruls is out to "Steal Her Christmas" now equates Waterboarding with Baptism in a new low even for her. Jesus would not be amused, anymore than he was by the Spanish Inquisition. Did I mention she said this to the NRA and they cheered? Yeah, Jesus wouldn't like that either. This woman was almost our vice president. Oh dear Lord, thank you for saving us.

From The Hill
“They obviously have information on plots to carry out Jihad,” ...(Palin) said at the National Rifle Association (NRA) annual meeting on Saturday evening, referring to prisoners. "Oh, but you can’t offend them, can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen.
Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.”



Was she sorry she said it? Nahhhhh.

From NBC News
In a brief interview with NBC News, Palin doubled down on a remark she made earlier this week at the NRA convention.
"Would I make it again? Why wouldn't I, yeah, absolutely. Terrorists who want to annihilate Americans, innocent Americans, our children - whatever it takes to stop them. If I were in charge, I'd be stoppin' em," she said.

And now she's blaming Obama because #Benghazi :

From Palin's Facebook Page
Actions to stop terrorists who’d utterly annihilate America and delight in massacring our innocent children? Darn right I’d do whatever it takes to foil their murderous jihadist plots – including waterboarding. Whatever one thinks of my one-liner at the NRA rally about treating evil terrorists the way they deserve to be treated to prevent the death of innocent people, it’s utterly absurd for MSNBC to suggest that I could put our beloved troops in harm’s way, but we’ve come to expect the absurd from that failing network.

If you want to talk about what really harms our troops, let’s talk about politicians who gut our military’s budgets, or a president whose skewed budgetary priorities slash military benefits, or an administration that puts our vets on endless waiting lists for care that comes too late to help those who’ve paid the price for our freedom, or those who break bread with those who think it makes no difference how our military heroes died in Benghazi or anywhere else trying to protect America. Those actions are a heck of a lot more harmful than declaring an appropriate message our enemies should receive. If some overly sensitive wusses took offense, remember the First Amendment doesn’t give you a right not to be offended. Perhaps hypocritical folks who only want Freedom of Speech to apply to those who agree with their liberal agenda might want to consider that the evil terrorists who were the brunt of my one-liner would be the first to strip away ALL our rights if given the chance. That’s why we do whatever we can to prevent them from killing innocent people. And for that, we should NEVER apologize. Good Lord, critics... buck up or stay in the truck. And if you love freedom, thank our troops! Thank our vets! And thank those who have the brains to support them and the guts to defend what they have earned!

Even some Conservatives are offended:

No, Sarah Palin, Baptism Isn’t A Good Punchline For A Terrorist Joke
. . . Joking about baptism in the context of this aggressive action suggests that we don’t think baptism is as life-giving or important as it is.
~ Mollie Hemingway on The Federalist

OK, stop. Not only is this woman, putatively a Christian, praising torture, but she is comparing it to a holy sacrament of the Christian faith. It’s disgusting — but even more disgusting, those NRA members, many of whom are no doubt Christians, cheered wildly for her.
Palin and all those who cheered her sacrilegious jibe ought to be ashamed of themselves. For us Christians, baptism is the entry into new life. Palin invoked it to celebrate torture. Even if you don’t believe that waterboarding is torture, surely you agree that it should not be compared to baptism, and that such a comparison should be laughed at. What does it say about the character of a person that they could make that joking comparison, and that so many people would cheer for it. Nothing good — and nothing that does honor to the cause of Jesus Christ.
~ Rod Dreher on The American Conservative

For anyone to confess Christ as their savior and to compare one of the means of God's grace to an act of torture is reprehensible. I hope members of Gov. Palin's local church will explain to her why her remarks denigrate the Christian faith. Such remarks bring shame on the Body of Christ and to our witness in the world. Even more shameful, however, is the fact that so many Christians would cheer her support of torture (and yes, waterboarding is torture).
~ The Gospel Coalition



Yes, Palin's Fox pal Sean Hannity Can Mansplain Why Waterboarding is Exactly Like Baptism (well not really, but he tries):
Let’s say, God forbid, one day you’re in a parking lot, somebody comes and they try and grab, um, all of — let’s say you have three kids — they try and grab all three of your kids but they only get one.
Well, let’s say they get your three kids.
And you get one of the people responsible for kidnapping your kids. Let’s see. Would you wanna baptize them by waterboarding the guy that took your three children?
I think I would. I think — as a matter of fact it wouldn’t be much of a question. I think I’d baptize him again, and again, and again until I found out where my kids are.
. . . I don’t understand the sensibility of liberals.
You have the guy — the mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — you know how many people got waterboarded? Three. Three! That’s it!
I just asked the question that way, because I don’t think there’s one of you listening, not one liberal out there if you have an honest bone in your body that wouldn’t say I would do whatever it took. Get the information quickly. Expeditiously.
Whatever it took. That’s just the way life — that’s just the way we roll. It’s the way America rolls.

Oooookey-Dokey.

Someone pointed out that the NRA might not be the best venue to talk peace, love and Baptism. Ya Think?

. . . for a self-professed Christian like Palin to use this beautiful religious ceremony with strong historical precedent as a part of a cheap joke to garner support for her otherwise typically uninspired stump speech is beyond repugnant. But what is more repugnant is that the National Rifle Association didn’t immediately distance itself from her. As far as I am concerned, until or unless they do, the National Rifle Association is guilty by association, and they, too, are anti-Christian.
~ Brendan Diamond on Democratify

Some were embarrassed (again) for Alaska:

Not everyone from Wasilla agrees with Sarah Palin. I feel it is important for my reputation as a human being who grew up in Wasilla, AK to take a stand. My family and I moved to Alaska in the early 70's. I went to public school in Wasilla from 1st through 12th grade, and I graduated from Wasilla High School in 1986. During that time, I was also a Blue Bird, a Camp Fire Girl, a Rainbow girl, a member of the First Presbyterian Church ...
There is Nothing in my upbringing in Wasilla that ever promoted or tolerated the idea that it is ok, good, or necessary to torture anyone.
. . . Furthermore, combining the acts of water-boarding (torture) and baptism (a sacred spiritual ritual) is an idea so reprehensible it could be used as a theme in Game of Thrones.
~ Rdeforrest on Daily Kos


For Most on the Left, this is just Palin being Palinesque:















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Sunday, December 29, 2013

A&E Reversal Keeps Bigot Phil Robertson on Duck Dynasty

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San Francisco Chronicle:
With A&E's decision Friday to bring Robertson back to its most-watched show, it remains to be seen if it can mend fences with both sides — or at least with those viewers who hold opposing views.

The channel's interest is in ratings and revenue, not refereeing social discord.

Will those who called for an A&E boycott unless Robertson returned be satisfied? Will "Duck Dynasty" fans who enjoy the Louisiana duck call-making family but were offended by Robertson's comments watch again?

. . . Within a day of Robertson's removal, more than a half-million people liked an impromptu Facebook page demanding A&E be boycotted until he returns. A petition calling for A&E to bring him back reached 250,000 signatures and counting in about a week.

The controversy similarly ensnared the Cracker Barrel restaurant chain, which removed "Duck Dynasty"-related merchandise from its shelves and then reversed course and apologized after being hit with complaints.









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Our family has become even closer through the past 9 days and we are excited to keep making a quality tv show for our dedicated fans, who have showed us wonderful support. We will continue to represent our faith and values in the most positive way through 'Duck Dynasty' and our many projects that we are currently working on. The outpouring of support and prayer has encouraged and emboldened us greatly.
~ Phil Robertson's eldest son, Alan - a Preacher

Some of Robertson's fans are pledging they'll be part of a "Chick-Phil-A National Support Day" on Jan. 21.
As of early Friday afternoon, there were about 25,000 "likes" and nearly 165,000 "guests" on the Chick-Phil-A-Day Facebook Page.
The idea, according to the Facebook campaign, is this.
1. Wear your Duck Commander or camouflage gear.
2. Eat at Chick-fil-A.
In August 2012, you'll likely recall, that boosted sales at the chain as conservatives showed their support for the company's president, Dan Cathy, and his stand against same-sex marriage.
Chick-fil-A says it has nothing to do with the upcoming Chick-Phil-A Day.
~ From NPR

Old Fashioned Traditional Christian Sentiment And Values.
~ Sean Hannity of Fox News

I’m glad that A&E came to their senses and recognized that tolerance of religious views is more important than political correctness. Today is a good day for the freedoms of speech and religious liberty.
~ Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana

This is why A&E now has, if not an obligation, a golden opportunity. The network should return Robertson and Duck Dynasty to the air, but not in the adulterated, cartoon version that has conservatives so besotted (a Facebook page calling for a boycott against A&E has generated over 1.8 million likes). No, Duck Dynasty should get real. It should show Robertson being as homophobic as he pleases, in his home, his church, his community. The show’s editors have previously been criticized for asking Robertson to not say “Jesus” at the end of his prayers; they should now let him get his Jesus freak on, whether in words that invoke hellfire and damnation or those that profess to love the sinner but hate the sin. And, as long as the show’s producers “guide” reality along, they should film Robertson interacting with actual gay people. If the LGBT population of West Monroe, Louisiana is camera-shy, they can fly some folks in for a good old duck hunt. I bet Mary Cheney is pretty handy with a shotgun.
~ Richard Kim of The Nation via AlterNet

























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Friday, December 20, 2013

Stigmatize Them! ~ Poor Kids Must Work for Food, Unlike Rich Kids

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From Think Progress - Rep. Jack Kingston R-GA
Rep Jack Kingston: . . . one of the things I’m talking to the Secretary of Agriculture about: why don’t you have the kids pay a dime, pay a nickle, to instill in them that there is, in fact, no such thing as a free lunch. Or maybe sweep the floor in the cafeteria. And yes, I understand that that would be an administrative problem and I understand that it would probably lose you money — but think what we’d gain as a society in getting the myth out of their head that there is such thing as a free lunch.

. . .Since paperwork is often an obstacle to access, communities like Boston and Dallas have opted to simply provide free meals to all students, regardless of economic need. But other schools have gone in the opposite direction, including a Dickerson, Texas, middle school that threw away the lunch of a student whose account was 30 cents short.
Kingston’s plan would potentially discourage participation in the program — some kids do not have the five to ten cents for their meals and singling them out as janitors would broadcast to other students which families are the poorest. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 18.9 million students receive free lunches and another 2.6 million receive reduced fee lunches. Last year, Kingston voted for a bill that would have kicked 280,000 low-income out of the program.

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This idea has come up before - here's then-GOP Candidate Newt Gingrich, running in the Presidential Primary for Election 2012:
"You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," he said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

Yeah, that went over like a lead balloon, and so did Kingston's cruel remark, so he backpeddled on CNN:
“This was a discussion about the work ethic in America and I think all kids of all socioeconomic brackets could prosper and learn a lot by having some sort of chores,” Kingston said Friday on CNN’s “New Day.”
The Republican lawmaker added that he never said “poor kids” ...
. . . “This wasn’t anything in a back room. This wasn’t a policy statement. This was a discussion,” Kingston said, slamming Democrats who he said planted a tracker to film his comments and then fundraise off of them.
“How are we going to change the status quo if we can’t have discussions about sensitive issues, or quasi-sensitive issues, without all the hyperbole that we always get trapped into in modern America,” the congressman said.

And he was still backpeddling (but strangely also doubling down)in this interview, which the caller, Roman Coley Davis,posted on Facebook.
Excerpt:
RD: . . . I understand that words are often twisted in political races. However, you explicitly and plainly stated that poor kids should have to pick up a broom (and thereby, be ridiculed, and face even more stigma), simply because they’re not from a wealthy family…in order to eat!”

REP. JK: “ALL kids should be made to learn hard work.”

RD: “That’s not what you said, Sir.”

REP. JK: “Yes, it is.”

RD: “No, Sir. With all due respect, I can provide you with the public transcript of your statement, which plainly illustrates that you did NOT, in fact, say ‘all kids should learn hard work’.”

REP. JK: “I passed by a ball field after a little league game and saw trash everywhere. I thought to myself ‘How great would it be if after just a simple ball game, these kids were made to pick up after everyone…to show them that working is important’. If we continue to give these poor kids charity, then we are robbing them of their work ethic.”

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Here’s the truth: What’s shocking about Jack Kingston’s statement isn’t that he said it, but that it’s not out of place with the GOP of 2013. Yes, individual Republicans may have an anti-poverty agenda, and there are conservative thinkers who want the party to do more for low-income people. But for too many Republicans, behind closed-doors and otherwise, the poor aren’t people with interests worth respecting—they’re targets for moralizing and disdain.
~ Jamelle Bouie on Daily Beast

Maybe we should make them work for the schools on the weekend and even provide free labor for local mega churches.
That might help them gain an understanding of the true message of modern christianity.
~ Honestead on Atlanta Journal Constitution

Republicans really need to notice the calendar. Wanting kids to work for their lunch sounds so Charles Dickens and Scrooge. And seriously, does he have kids? A first grader doing janitorial work? Imagine how clean the bathrooms would not be. Kingston's heart is four sizes too small.
~ NWGAL on Atlanta Journal Constitution

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Just in time for the birthday of baby Jesus, they are cutting food stamps and unemployment benefits. It’s all for the benefit of the poor.
. . . The true enemies of Christmas – and of Christian hope, as articulated in this season by Pope Francis – are those who pretend to befriend the poor by taking bread from their children’s mouths. Both the mean old Grinch and Ebenezer Scrooge were saved from villainy before their stories ended. Our modern political misers, clothed in self-righteousness, have no such prospect of redemption.
~ Joe Conason on National Memo














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Duck Dynasty Daddy Gets The Boot for Bigoted Remarks

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Duck Dynasty Patriarch Phil Robertson said some shocking things during an interview with GQ:
Out here in these woods, without any cameras around, Phil is free to say what he wants. Maybe a little too free. He’s got lots of thoughts on modern immorality, and there’s no stopping them from rushing out. Like this one:

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

Phil On Growing Up in Pre-Civil-Rights-Era Louisiana
“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once.
Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

. . . “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” he says. “Sin becomes fine.”

What, in your mind, is sinful?

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says.
Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

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Statement from Phil via A&E released to Huffington Post:
“I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

Later the A&E Network responded with "You're Fired."
Via Hollywood Reporter:
We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson's comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty," A&E said in a statement. "His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."

But . . . wait a minute --



Family Statement on the Duck Commander Website:
We want to thank all of you for your prayers and support. The family has spent much time in prayer since learning of A&E's decision. We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word. While some of Phil’s unfiltered comments to the reporter were coarse, his beliefs are grounded in the teachings of the Bible. Phil is a Godly man who follows what the Bible says are the greatest commandments: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Phil would never incite or encourage hate. We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right. We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty. Again, thank you for your continued support of our family.









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Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.
~ Failed Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on Facebook







The PC Police have pulled over yet another Patriot!
This is a terrible day for Americans. But admittedly, a pretty good day for ducks.
Why did A&E A-and-axe him? Because this good Christian man spoke his mind to GQ about 'the Gays.'
(Quotes Phil)
Now I'll admit it's not the eloquent speech you'd expect from a backwoods Louisiana bird-murderer.
. . . Tonight we are ALL Phil Robertson. (dons beard)
And yes, black people had no reason to sing the blues! For pete's sake - they got their own water fountains!
~ Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central

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The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with. I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive.
I also acknowledge that this is a free country, and everyone is entitled to express their views. In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed-up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.
~ Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

The First Amendment, like the constitution generally, only applies to the government, so if the government stops someone from talking or punishes them, that’s a First Amendment issue. If a private person says I won’t hire you or let you be on TV anymore, that’s not.
The idea is we don’t let the government decide what’s a good opinion, but we do let individuals decide what they think is offensive and what should be rewarded and what should be discouraged. That’s the way the marketplace of ideas is supposed to work.
~ Law Professor Kermit Roosevelt, Univ. of PA, on ABC News

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