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Wednesday, March 30, 2016

Susan Sarandon Likes Trump Over Hillary

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Many supporters of Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders have taken the hashtag #BernieOrBust literally and absolutely refuse to consider Hillary Clinton as a viable alternative, even if she wins the Democratic nomination. At least that is what they are vowing in numerous tweets and multiple diaries a day on Daily Kos.









Some have labeled Hillary a criminal, a warmonger, a kiss-up to Wall Street and other things too horrible to mention here. Some even attack her for being a woman, and her supporters as "Hill-bots in love with vaginas," as if women aware of their gender are not allowed in the Democratic Party anymore. We can't possibly be allowed to enjoy the idea of the first woman President, because that is putting lady-parts ahead of the Revolution.

Here are some anti-Hillary tweets from earlier this year by Bernie surrogate Susan Sarandon, actress famous for supposedly feminist cult film, "Thelma and Louise."







More on Sarandon in a minute . . . but recall that in 2000 she was also attached to the third-party campaign for Ralph Nader, who skewed the race away from Al Gore and gave George W. Bush the Presidency.

Hillary's main problems, according to Sarandon and others, are that she isn't a man and she isn't a revolutionary, and especially that she isn't a revolutionary man identical to the cranky but "pure" Bernie Sanders. And now that he seems to be losing to Hillary as the Democratic nominee, some rabid followers are dogmatically refusing to shift positions for the general election. Of course, many of those saying that are not Democrats but Independents crossing lines in open caucuses and primaries for a candidate they believe in. That is their perogative, but their goals may not be identical to that of most Dems, who wish to protect President Obama's legacy of Obamacare, social and environmental programs, and especially to insure a liberal majority on the Supreme Court into the future.

If the revolutionary Bernies reject Hillary, then who will get their votes in November? One theory was that Bernie might make a run as a 3rd Party candidate, reminiscent of Ralph Nader, but there has been no mention of that for some time, and Bernie will probably just go back to being the Senator from Vermont. Some have put forth Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, but many will surely stay home and say to hell with the country. In the worst case scenario, the Bernie-bros-and-gals will switch over and vote for Trump, perhaps hoping he will beat Hillary as some kind of revenge.

And that brings us back to Susan Sarandon. In an interview with Chris Hayes the other night on MSNBC, Sarandon stated once again that if Bernie loses the nomination, she will never ever EVER vote for Hillary, and in fact . . . well, a quote is best or you won't believe it:

CHRIS HAYES: . . . I think a lot of people think to themselves well if it’s Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, and I think Bernie Sanders probably would think this…

SARANDON: I think Bernie probably would encourage people because he doesn’t have any ego. I think a lot of people are sorry, I can’t bring myself to do that.

HAYES: How about you personally?

SARANDON: I don’t know. I’m going to see what happens.

HAYES: Really?

SARANDON: Really.

HAYES: I cannot believe as you’re watching the, if Donald Trump…

 SARANDON: Some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately if he gets in then things will really, you know explode.


HAYES: Don’t you think that’s dangerous?

SARANDON: I think that what’s going on now — if you think it’s pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now, then you’re not in touch with the status quo. The status quo is not working, and I think it’s dangerous to think that we can continue the way we are, with the militarized police force, with privatized prisons, with the death penalty, with the low minimum wage, threats to women’s rights, and think that you can’t do something huge to turn that around, because the country is not in good shape. If you’re in the middle class, it’s disappearing.

Later on Twitter in response to fellow-actress Jamie Lee Curtis,
Sarandon tried to walk back her remarks and support for Trump.
Lots of people called her out on the flip-flop.





























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Appearing just after Sarandon on Inners, LGTB activist Dan Savage spoke for many Dems watching when he said::

Can I just say I’m for Bernie, or Hillary, or both. Come November I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is, because the lesser of two evils is less evil, and I don’t think Donald will bring the revolution,” Via Washington Blade



Let’s be grateful to Susan Sarandon for exposing just how vapid and callous the left-wing #NeverHillary argument is.
It’s unclear how many people Sarandon speaks for. There are lots of posturing radicals on social media who pretend Clinton would be no better than Trump, but my guess is that they are a tiny fraction of Sanders supporters. Sanders himself certainly doesn’t encourage such political nihilism and will surely rally to Clinton’s side if she beats him in the primary. Inasmuch as #NeverHillary is a phenomenon, however, Sarandon, a rich white celebrity with nothing on the line, is a perfect spokeswoman for it.
~ Michelle Goldberg, Slate

Sanders has already said that he would support Clinton if she won the nomination.
Now this statement from Sarandon displays a disturbing flaw that may be at the heart of the thinking of many Sanders supporters. Sanders may be campaigning as a true socialist on an egoless mission to create a better, more equitable America, but many of his supporters, including Sarandon, appear fully committed to allowing their egos to play a vital role in this election.
~ Barrett Holmes Pitner

Sarandon is a public figure with considerable influence. Therefore offering a get-out-of-jail-free card to Bernie supporters who think it’s wise to allow a Republican to become president in lieu of Hillary Clinton is, putting it mildly, irresponsible. Like her or not, Sarandon is a woman with political clout, and Bernie supporters who might be feeling the slow onset of heartbreak as Bernie’s window to the nomination closes are very likely to take her seriously and let the general election chips fall where they may.
. . . Sarandon has millions of dollars between her and poverty. She’s the one percent, and perhaps that’s why she’s not troubled by the idea of using poor and middle class workers as human shields in her plan to get to achieve a revolution.
. . . Today, allowing a Republican extremist like Trump or Cruz to win the presidency by refusing to vote or by casting a protest vote is objectively reckless. It shows a total disregard for the millions of Americans who would be literally destroyed by a GOP president. Your personal political agenda is not nearly as crucial as helping to maintain an electoral bulwark against an apocalyptic Republican victory, and the only way to achieve this is by voting for the Democratic nominee.
~ Bob Cesca on Salon.com

. . . you don’t have to go very far back to remember something akin to what Sarandon is describing in the Democratic Party—but last time around, it was in support of Clinton, not against her. The PUMAs (“People United Means Action” or, by some accounts, “Party Unity My Ass”) were such diehard Clinton supporters that they flatly refused to support the upstart Barack Obama eight years ago. So how did that turn out in 2008? Obama cruised to victory with the highest popular vote total in U.S. history, and a nearly 10 million vote lead over Senator John McCain. Sarandon is feeling the Bern, but perhaps there’s more heat than light to her claims about Sandersistas sitting 2016 out.
~ David A. Graham on The Atlantic







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Friday, September 5, 2014

Kansas GOP Won't Let Democrat Drop Out of Race

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First Democrat Chad Taylor dropped out of the Kansas Senate Race so that Independent candidate Greg Orman will have a better chance to win. This was heralded as great news by the Democratic Party both locally and nationally, because if he wins, Orman will likely caucus with the Democrats. And let's face it: anyone calling themselves an "Independent" in Kansas might have a better chance to win than either a Democrat or a Republican.

From Kansas.com
In a stunning development, candidate Chad Taylor asked Wednesday that his name be removed from the ballot, paving the way for independent candidate Greg Orman to face U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts head-on in November.
“After much consideration and prolonged discussion with my supporters, my staff, and party leadership at every level, I have decided to end my campaign for the United States Senate,” Taylor said in an exclusive statement to The Eagle.

Chad Taylor supposedly asked the Kansas Attorney General's Office exactly what to do in order to legally withdraw from the Senate race. But once he withdrew, the GOP began to throw stumbling blocks that might thwart the plan out of fear that they will lose the Senate seat. And in order to help their own candidate, the NRSC announced that they were sending in a national advisor to help Senator Pat Roberts shore up a victory.

New York Times
. . . on Thursday, the Kansas secretary of state, Kris Kobach, a Republican, ruled that the Democratic nominee, Chad Taylor, could not withdraw his name from the ballot. Democratic officials said Mr. Taylor would file a legal challenge to the ruling.
The National Republican Senatorial Committee is sending Chris LaCivita, who has served as a political troubleshooter in past Republican campaigns, to counsel Mr. Roberts and help oversee his campaign. The committee will also seek to hire a local lawyer in any legal challenge against Mr. Taylor, who had tried to drop off the ballot on the last day candidates were allowed to do so.

This is nowhere near over, however. Taylor is vowing to fight Att. General Kobach to get his name off the ballot. Note: Chris Kobach is a well-known Tea Party Wingnut, completely partisan, and part of the committee to re-elect Pat Roberts.

Talking Points Memo
"I am planning to challenge the ruling of the Kansas Secretary of State," Taylor said in a statement emailed to reporters. He invoked Kobach's membership on incumbent Sen. Pat Roberts' honorary campaign committee and reiterated that he had consulted with a member of Kobach's office before filing his paperwork while announcing the challenge.
It was not immediately clear whether Taylor would file his challenge with a court or the Kansas Objections Board, which covers election issues. But Kobach said earlier Thursday that the board, which is under his authority, would not handle any appeal.

























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Wednesday, January 2, 2013

GOP Has a Sad About Fiscal Cliff Loss

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I have to admit that Obama makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur when it comes to politics.
~ comment by MinorityRepublican on Free Republic

The Republican Party is dead. The GOP-e has killed it. I am not drinking their lesser-of-two evils, Dem-lite Kool-Aid anymore.
comment by Buddy on Free Republic

It's always the same, wait, just wait until this or that hits the fan. In the mean time the Republicans keep giving in to the left, and now it's Obama they keep giving in to. When will they hold the line until the left gives in? Just once in my friggen life I would like to see them HOLD! But they never do, and they never will.
They hold the purse, yet they allow Obama to stick his hand in and take what ever he wants because they are afraid of him and the media. Screw the media.
It is time to say no, regardless of what you are called or what lies they tell. Integrity starts with doing the right thing regardless of the lies told about you. The Republican establishment controls the party, and they have no integrity.
So because they cannot stop themselves from dealing with the devil, it's time for us to say no to them. We are beyond the brink, it is now time.
~ comment by OneVike on Free Republic





I vote for Cantor for speaker, he will stand up to Obozo.
~ comment by The Beagle Nose on Breitbart

Only one Cannon left.
God.
Let our aim be true.
Stop the Spending, Stop the Addiction !
~ comment by HeReturnsSoon on Breitbart

Is their intent to piss us off and insult our intelligence in the most ludicrous ways imaginable?
~ comment by PrivacyInA9M80 on Breitbart











Please send your checks to Marco Rubio 2016 Presidential Exploratory Committee. Paul Ryan's Presidential Exploratory Committee died today.
~ comment by Calder on National Review

Essentially no spending cuts. We are headed into economic ruin.
~ comment by No Blarney on Washington Times

WITH A DEAL LIKE THIS -> IT IS TIME FOR WEEPING WILLOW TO
RESIGN, OR JUST PUT A BIG D -> IN FRONT OF HIS NAME.
~ comment by justbreathless on Washington Times





The McConnell Tax Hike will become law of the land. Mitch McConnell can and should take responsibility for it.
. . . The Republican Establishment in Washington, DC should be burned to the ground and salt spread on the remains. Republicans who saw Mitch McConnell and John Boehner destroy the last plank of the Republican Party are going to need to look elsewhere for a savior for their party. Boehner and McConnell have declared they will survive. Their party? They don’t really care.
Conservatives must look elsewhere. I do not advocate a third party. I advocate bring fresh blood into the GOP.
~ Erick Erickson on Red State

As it happened, Boehner's attempt at herding cats failed miserably, the House lost any leverage or credibility in the fiscal cliff negotiations and have been left as nothing more than a rubber-stamp on whatever Obama and the Democrat Senate was prepared to pass.
~ comment by Rich on Red State





Boehner is an Ohio Republican, the writing is on the wall. Boehner looses his job if Obama doesn't like him, so he prostrates himself, and sells the rest of us down the river. Boehner is like all blue state conservatives, just looking for cover anywhere they an find it. Our future is in Obama's control and I don;t see too many Conservatives talking about how to govern blue states, or win big blue cities.
~ comment by Wm on Red State

Look in the mirror: you (and me) are the fools. Boehner and McConnell and nearly the entire GOP Senators (and we'll soon find out probably at least half the GOP House) are not conservatives getting tricked into being progressives. They are progressives tricking you (and me) into thinking they are sometimes conservative. This was an easy call for anybody with a conservative inkling to vote against. All the pretend "negotations" between the President, and Harry Reid, and Biden, and McConnell, and then Boehner wouldn't budge, and then McConnell was driving a hard bargain, then....blah, blah, blah, they're drinking Scotch during these "meetings" plotting what the next "impasse" will be to keep dragging you and me along - it's all a show folks! The GOP leadership and the Obama administration and Democratic party are ONE IN THE SAME. They need each other to keep themselves in power. I for one am done being the GOP's useful idiot. 1988 was the last time we had a conversative leader of our party. 25+ years is too long.
~ comment by Brah on Red State

I will be writing a check to the Ashley Judd campaign for the Senate from Kentucky.
~ comment by kipling on Red State






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Monday, August 27, 2012

Charlie Crist Endorses Obama, Heads Explode

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Charlie Crist Op-Ed in Tampa Bay Times
As Republicans gather in Tampa to nominate Mitt Romney, Americans can expect to hear tales of how President Obama has failed to work with their party or turn the economy around.

But an element of their party has pitched so far to the extreme right on issues important to women, immigrants, seniors and students that they've proven incapable of governing for the people. Look no further than the inclusion of the Akin amendment in the Republican Party platform, which bans abortion, even for rape victims.

The truth is that the party has failed to demonstrate the kind of leadership or seriousness voters deserve.

Pundits looking to reduce something as big as a statewide election to a single photograph have blamed the result of my 2010 campaign for U.S. Senate on my greeting of President Obama. I didn't stand with our president because of what it could mean politically; I did it because uniting to recover from the worst financial crisis of our lifetimes was more important than party affiliation. I stood with our nation's leader because it was right for my state.

President Obama has a strong record of doing what is best for America and Florida, and he built it by spending more time worrying about what his decisions would mean for the people than for his political fortunes. That's what makes him the right leader for our times, and that's why I'm proud to stand with him today.

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I’d say Gov. Crist’s endorsement adds one more vote in Florida. And that’s it.
~ Virginia’s Republican governor, Bob McDonnell, known as Governor Ultrasound

Today we have seen a repugnant display from a self-centered, career politician. While the people of Florida, and thousands of visitors who’ve traveled here, are facing an emergency, Charlie Crist has demonstrated, yet again, that his political ambition will always come first.
~ Republican Party of Florida Chairman Lenny Curry, via ABC News

Charlie Crist, bless his heart, he is just so desperate to be in the parade, he will wear anybody’s costume.
~ Former Rep. Adam Putnam, now the Florida Agriculture Commissioner on Fox News, quoted by Daily Caller

He's like a muppet -- except muppets are lovable, not bizarre and creepy.
~ comment by Yale Dikes on Daily Caller

Just another political ho with a spray on tan and no agenda other than himself....
~ comment by Fl Stingray on Daily Caller

Charlie Crist is the PERFECT example of what I call a "political chameleon". He'll change his colors faster than a cuttlefish to do whatever he thinks is necessary to please whatever audience is right in front of him at the moment! I'm VERY thankful that Marco Rubio defeated him in his Senate bid both in the primaries and in the General Election, because his victory in getting the Senate seat permanently ended Crist's chances of getting elected even as a local dogcatcher anywhere here in FL!!
~ comment by A_Proud_Infidel on Daily Caller

I guess that will help Obama lock up the lying weasel vote.
~ comment by Tom on the Palm Beach Post

Charlie Crist Is Lovin' Him Some President Obama
~ Headline on Sunshine State News

Well the true Charlie Crist has come out....now he;'s come out of the closet supporting Obama, What will come out of his closet next? What a gadfly. Sour grapes and poor loser,. He was a big Republican then indepependent (when it became apparent he was going to gte his clock cleaned by Marco Rubio in the GOP primary...and he did nyway as an Independent). Hes not an independent, a democart or republican. hes just a Chrlie Crist party guy
~ comment by Dave on the Washington Examiner



















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