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Sunday, April 17, 2016

Pope Suggests a Psychiatrist for Bernie Camp

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Bernie Sanders and his family took a whirlwind trip to the Vatican in Rome yesterday. Ostensibly he went there to speak at a small conference to spread his message of "moral economics" to a wider audience, giving Bernie more credibility as a world leader. Bernie's spokesperson said he discussed such matters with Pope Francis, head of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and someone Bernie seems to admire.

But the political price of going all that way to make a 15 minute speech struck many as hypocritical - more like a mini-break vacation for Bernie's Catholic wife than a sensible plan.

From the Daily Mail UK


  • Bernie Sanders traveled to Rome for the Vatican conference on Friday



  • He was joined by his wife, ten family members, a group of campaign staff, secret service detail and members of the press



  • The total group of what is believed to be below 50, flew in a chartered Delta 767 for their trip which can seat between 211 and 261 people



  • Sanders's wife, who's Catholic, and four grandchildren came on the trip 



  • A 767 like Sanders' that is flying 4,435 miles from New York to Rome uses approximately 16,596 gallons of fuel







    • But what really happened there in Rome? By the time Bernie and company were headed back home yesterday, confusion reigned. It wasn't as bad as "Romney Shambles" when Mitt went to Israel, but there were questions a-plenty about how the Bernie team were spinning the trip compared to what actually happened.







    From ABC News
    Fresh from Thursday night’s Democratic debate, Bernie Sanders landed in Rome today to speak at a Vatican-hosted conference.
    In his speech to the conference, hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Science, the Vermont senator focused on the “urgency of a moral economy.”
    “The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” Sanders said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.”
    . . . During a coffee break, Sanders exited the Vatican walls to address what became a mob scene of supporters and reporters.













    From CBS News
    "When I received the invitation -- I know it's taking me away from the campaign trail for a day. It was so moving to me that it was something I simply could not refuse to attend," he said.
    In reality, Sanders just brought the campaign trail to Rome. In a speech there, he hit many of the same themes, calling for a more just economy, and often using the pope's own words.
    Bishop Marcello Sanchez Sorondo, the man who invited Sanders to a usually obscure conference at an academy advising the Pope on issues like social inequality, says getting involved in political movements "is important."

    But there was confusion over Bernie's invitation from the beginning, with various spokespeople for Bernie at odds with the Vatican, which sought to distance the Pope from American politics. Just like the Kim Davis debacle with the Pope a few months ago, the Vatican's story differed from the way it was being pitched by supporters. And lower-level Vatican officials seemed interested in stirring the political pot much more than the Pope himself.

    For instance, as early as April 8th, the Vatican hinted that Bernie himself had angled for the invitation, which they considered "discourteous."

    From The Hill
    "It was an invitation from the Vatican," Sanders said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "I was very moved by the invitation."
    But the senior Vatican official, Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, said it was Sanders who made "the first move" to attend the event.
    . . . “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will," Archer added.
    However, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, chancellor of academy, formally invited Sanders to attend the meeting in a letter dated March 30 and provided to The Hill by Sanders' campaign.
    “We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America, I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America,” Sanchez Sorondo told Bloomberg, speaking from New York.

    Look at the difference between the way the "meeting with the Pope" was pitched yesterday compared to what the Pope says actually happened. The Pope was getting ready to leave for Greece and sent his regrets to all the members of the conference. But Bernie was determined to have the face time with Pontifex and lurked outside his rooms as he was leaving before receiving a "handshake." That was somehow enlarged into a "meeting" by a spokesperson named Michael Shank, and the Sanders camp in general.

    From USA Today
    "We had an opportunity to meet with him this morning," Sanders told the Associated Press. "It was a real honor for me, for my wife and I to spend some time with him. I think he is one of the extraordinary figures not only in the world today but in modern world history." Sanders, who is Jewish, said he has long been a "big fan" of the pope's teachings on economic justice.

    Sanders, in the thick of the presidential race, had to break off his primary campaigning and fly all night to get to the Vatican, where he addressed a Vatican conference on social justice and spent the night at the Vatican guest house where Francis lives.

    The pope, who made a brief trip to Greece on Saturday to visit a refugee camp, spoke to reporters on the plane home about his encounter with the American politician. "When I came down, I greeted him, I shook his hand and nothing more. This is called good manners and it is not getting involved in politics," the pope said, according to Reuters. "If anyone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics, I recommend that he look for a psychiatrist," he said, laughing.

    From "Bernie's Roman Holiday" by Daniel Schultz
    The whole Bernie-goes-to-Rome thing has been a shambles, to be honest. The campaign got Sanders a back-door invite which surprised and irritated the academy president, not to mention stepping on the roll-out of Amoris Laetitia, the Pope’s new teaching on the family. Then they did it again, taking a private jet to Rome to speak on the idolatry of money in the middle of a make-it-or-break-it primary in New York, and arriving in Rome on a day when the Vatican would much rather be talking about Francis’ meeting with Patriarch Bartholomew in Lesbos about the European refugee crisis.
    As if that weren’t bad enough, Sanders showed up with his family in tow, undercutting the high-minded moral message he was supposed to be delivering, and Oh, sweet Jesus, did they really put his logo on a picture of the Pope?! All this in service of a message that won’t impress or inspire anybody who wasn’t going to vote for Sanders to begin with.
    I suppose that was the goal all along, though: to maintain Sanders’ inspirational image. Either that, or they’re making some kind of bizarre, desperate play for the New York Catholic vote. Or again, maybe they were hoping a bird would land on his podium again, which would do about as much good. At this point, I just don’t know what to think.

    From Reuters Video: It is Crazy
    To See the Sanders Meeting as Political













    The Non-Meeting was turned into a political ad!



























    At least the food on the plane was great!











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    Monday, June 8, 2015

    Non-Scientist Rick Santorum Slams Scientific Pope

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    Santorum Says Smart People Reject GOP
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    Rick Santorum thinks Pope Francis, leader of the Catholic Church, should stop speaking out on scientific matters. He said last week:

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    “The church has gotten it wrong a few times on science, and I think that we probably are better off leaving science to the scientists,” he told the Pope. “I think when we get involved with controversial political and scientific theories, then I think the church is probably not as forceful and credible. And I’ve said this to the bishops many times when they get involved in agriculture policy or things like that, that are really outside the scope of what the church’s main message is.”

    Here's what Santorum either didn't know or simply forgot - Pope Francis has a school background in Chemistry. That's right, SCIENCE. Unlike Mr. Santorum and most politicians in the U.S.

    According to Snopes.com, while the Pope does not have a "Masters" in Chemistry, he did graduate with the equivalent of a Community College degree as a Chemical Technician.

    From the Natinoal Catholic Reporter
    It is true that Pope Francis studied chemistry and worked as a chemist prior to entering the seminary. But Jorge Bergoglio never graduated from university prior to entering the seminary.
    . . . What he did do was graduate with a título in chemistry from the Escuela Técnica Industrial No. 12*, which is a state-run technical secondary school.
    In the Argentine system, "the título (same word used for a secondary diploma or a university degree) was earned at about age 19 after an extended secondary program," Liebscher said. "Not everyone who goes to secondary school gets one of those diplomas, and the título really represents something beyond our high-school diploma, something akin a certificate from a community college in the U.S."

    A "diploma" that is post-high school qualifies as a "degree" in the U.S., right?

    Even after the gaffe was pointed out to Santorum, he still tried to double down on the Pope. But in a surprisingly tough interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News on Sunday, Santorum was caught without a defense.

    From Forward Progressives
    “If he’s not a scientist, and in fact he does have a degree in Chemistry – neither are you,” Wallace said. “Somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of scientists who have studied this say that humans, human activity, contribute to climate change.” “So, I guess the question should be, if he shouldn’t talk about it, should you?,” he asked.
    “We have to make public policy with regard to the environmental policy,” Santorum said before being cut off by Wallace.
    “But you’re not a scientist, you said leave the science to the scientists,” Wallace shot back.


    PWN!










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    Monday, February 11, 2013

    Holy Jokes ~ Pope Benedict XVI Resigning from The Vatican

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    Story via Huffington Post
    VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Benedict XVI announced Monday that he would resign on Feb. 28 because he was simply too infirm to carry on — the first pontiff to do so in nearly 600 years. The decision sets the stage for a conclave to elect a new pope before the end of March.

    The 85-year-old pope announced his decision in Latin during a meeting of Vatican cardinals on Monday morning.

    He emphasized that carrying out the duties of being pope — the leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics worldwide — requires "both strength of mind and body."

    . . . The last pope to resign was Pope Gregory XII, who stepped down in 1415 in a deal to end the Great Western Schism among competing papal claimants.




















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    Monday, October 15, 2012

    "Atlas Scrubbed" - Paul Ryan Fakes Charity at Ohio Soup Kitchen

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    From CBS News
    Brian J. Antag, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society in Youngstown, told the Washington Post that the Romney campaign had not asked to make the Saturday visit to the soup kitchen. He said that he runs an apolitical faith-based organization which has bylaws barring it from hosting political candidates, and that the visit jeopardized donations from private individuals.

    "They showed up there and they did not have permission," he said. "They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors." Antag added that Ryan and his family "did nothing" while on the premises.

    "He just came in here to get his picture taken at the dining hall," he said.

    Our campaign and Congressman Ryan were pleased to bring attention to the meaningful charitable contributions the St. Vincent De Paul Society makes to people in need.
    ~ Chris Maloney, director of communications in Ohio for the Romney Campaign (rhymes with baloney)

    Sin....Sin.... big old ugly SIN = Using the POOR as a campaign prop
    ~ comment by The Fighting Irish on Washington Post

    This is the future for our seniors under Ryan, BTW..line up for charity because your government guarantees, the ones you paid into all those years, will disappear and that Medicare voucher will just about cover pre-lim's.
    ~ comment by hrayovac2 on Washington Post

    Atlas Scrubbed.
    ~ comment by Travis Pitts on Washington Post



    All I really need to know about Paul Ryan I Learned From This Soup Kitchen Photo Op
    ~ avengerco on Tumblr

    It would have been more appropriate for him to dress like P90X Paul Ryan.
    ~ comment by Evilito on New York Mag

    You didn't scrub that!
    ~ comment by Cags on New York Mag

    Dude! Rage Against the Tureen!
    ~ comment by FiscalClifford on New York Mag

    Note the spotless apron, and the, I'm guessing, water-proof watch.
    ~ comment by liberalagogo on Daily Kos

    Out! Out damn'd spot!
    ~ comment by Anne Elk on Daily Kos

    Actually, it had nothing to do with staging a "reg'lar" guy photo of Rep. Ryan donning an apron and washing dishes.
    He was merely trying to find a water source.
    I mean, come on. After Thursday night's performance, we know how important hydration is to Ryan.
    The apron was a ruse. Workout boy needed to rehydrate.
    Minutes after this photo was taken, he was seen tearing off the top of a fire hydrant right outside the building.
    ~ comment by Bender Rodriguez on Daily Kos

    Paul Ryan wants to be Pontius Pilate and wash his hands of the poor.
    ~ comment by LakeSuperior on Daily Kos

    We think soup kitchen patrons are lazy moochers but we care deeply about them all the same.
    ~ comment by PianoMan on Daily Kos

    So, you know, still lying.
    ~ Wonkette

    Those children look like they have never seen a pot or pan in their lives.
    ~ comment by MissTaken on Wonkette

    He's acting out Grover Norquist's old fantasy of dragging government to the bathtub (or in this case, an industrial sink) and drowning it. With the help of his kids
    ~ comment by LastGasp on Wonkette

    Ayn cringed while Atlas mugged.
    ~ comment by Barto on Wonkette
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    Friday, October 12, 2012

    Paul Ryan: His Unborn Child on Ultrasound Resembled a Bean

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    RYAN: Now, you want to ask basically why I'm pro-life? It's not simply because of my Catholic faith. That's a factor, of course. But it's also because of reason and science.

    You know, I think about 10 1/2 years ago, my wife Janna and I went to Mercy Hospital in Janesville where I was born, for our seven week ultrasound for our firstborn child, and we saw that heartbeat. A little baby was in the shape of a bean. And to this day, we have nicknamed our firstborn child Liza, "Bean." Now I believe that life begins at conception.

    That's why -- those are the reasons why I'm pro-life.

    ~ Vice Presidential Debate Transcript




























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    Saturday, September 15, 2012

    Honest Santorum Says Smart People Reject the GOP

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    Rick Santorum at the 2012 Values Voter Summit in Washington D.C.

    We will never have the media on our side, ever, in this country. We will never have the elite smart people on our side, because they believe they should have the power to tell you what to do. So our colleges and universities, they’re not going to be on our side.

    The conservative movement will always be – and that’s why we founded Patriot Voices – the basic premise of America and American values will always be sustained through two institutions, the church and the family. (Applause.)

    And so economic conservatism - libertarian types can say, oh, well, we don’t want to talk about the social issues. Without the church and the family, there is no conservative movement. There is no basic values in America in force, and there is no future for our country. (Applause.)

    So it is our job in this election, it is our job, to go out and make a difference. It is our job to go out and talk to fellow believers. And I don’t mean Christians. I mean fellow believers in the American creed, fellow believers in those basic principles that built our country.


    Full Transcript of Santorum's Speech on Politico



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    You can't make this stuff up.
    ~ comment by Liberalus on Think Progress

    OMG LOL he is totally strange. What a totally true statement. We "smart" people can tell snake oil salesman from a mile away.
    ~ comment by Patricia B. on Think Progress

    Wait, I'm confused....he said he didn't want the smart people because they would tell you what to do, yet toward the end he said he believed in the church and family because they would ENFORCE the values.....isn't THAT telling you what to do?????
    ~ comment by Barbara G. on Think Progress

    Extra, Extra: Rick Santorum Doesn't Need Smart People On His Side
    ~ Headline on Gothamist

    This is hysterical ...Rick calls the audience stupid and they applaud wildly...
    Ya can't make this stuff up.
    ~ comment by eyelashviper on Huffington Post

    Was that a Romney talking point -- it sure had that vibe.
    ~ comment by dickddudna on Huff Post

    George Will and David Brooks just died inside. :(
    ~ comment by Proud2Blndy on Huff Post

    Of course, as we have no desire to be governed by dim bulbs like him, nor the Rombot. They had their day during the Dark Ages.
    ~ comment by N81Der on Huff Post

    I've missed Saintoriam + Newtless & Moonbeam + Bozorina + What did Say Perry + 999!
    ~ comment by Jeff S. on Huff Post

    Pandering to the anti-intellectualists
    ~ comment by napster on Daily Beast

    I thought the repubs were all mad about how they thought the Prez was dividing our nation? Look at this guy: the elite...the smart...church people...family people. Wow!
    ~ comment by levon on Daily Beast

    He's smoothing the way for the forthcoming pain of the debates.
    ~ comment by User 0 on Daily Beast





















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    Tuesday, July 31, 2012

    Romney Shambles Day Six: Warsaw Speech

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    Romney Shambles Day One: Disconcerting London Gaffes
    Romney Shambles Day Two: British Press Pounces
    Romney Shambles Day Three: On to Israel
    Romney Shambles Day Four: Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran
    Romney Shambles Day Five: Not Too Kosher
    Romney Shambles Day Five: Poland
    Romney Shambles Day Six: Warsaw Speech
    Romney Shambles Review

    Romney's Complete Speech in Warsaw Poland

    Romney Aide Curses At Press in Poland
    ~ Headline on Talking Points Memo

    Transcript
    CNN: “Governor Romney are you concerned about some of the mishaps of your trip?

    NYT: “Governor Romney do you have a statement for the Palestinians?

    Washington Post: “What about your gaffes?

    NYT: “Governor Romney do you feel that your gaffes have overshadowed your foreign trip?”

    CNN: “Governor Romney just a few questions sir, you haven’t taken but three questions on this trip from the press!

    Gorka: “Show some respect”

    NYT: “We haven’t had another chance to ask a question…”

    Gorka: “Kiss my ass. This is a Holy site for the Polish people. Show some respect.”





    Gorka subsequently called a pair of reporters to apologize, saying he lost his cool. “It was inappropriate,” Gorka said. Romney was at the square to visit the Polish Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. After he did that, laying a wreath and greeting Polish military veterans, the GOP hopeful decided to walk down to a monument on the other side of the square. Romney has not held a media availability for his traveling press corps since taking three questions outside 10 Downing Street in London last Thursday. ~ Politico.com


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    Friday, April 27, 2012

    The Catholic Church Sends Paul Ryan a Message

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    For you have the poor always with you...
    ~ Jesus Christ, Matthew 26:11

    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
    When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
    ~ The Holy Bible, Matthew 19:24-25

    I suppose there are some Catholics who for a long time have thought they had a monopoly of sorts . . . not exactly on heaven, but on the social teaching of our Church. Of course there can be differences among faithful Catholics on this.
    . . . The overarching threat to our whole society today is the exploding federal debt. The Holy Father, Pope Benedict, has charged that governments, communities, and individuals running up high debt levels are “living at the expense of future generations” and “living in untruth.”
    . . . My mentor, Jack Kemp, used to say, “You can’t help America’s poor by making America poor."
    ~ Representative Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), speaking at Georgetown University, transcript Here

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    Dear Rep. Paul Ryan, Welcome to Georgetown University...We would be remiss in our duty to you and our students if we did not challenge your continuing misuse of Catholic teaching to defend a budget plan that decimates food programs for struggling families, radically weakens protections for the elderly and sick, and gives more tax breaks to the wealthiest few.
    ~ Excerpt from a letter signed by 90 Georgetown University faculty and administrators, including a dozen Jesuit priests, numerous members of the Theology and other departments. Read the complete letter on Huffington Post
     
    Blessed are the rich, the reign of this world is ours. The rich rule the world, and the rest suffer and die, often in misery. Do not let this be you my brothers! Easier to use your riches to genetically engineer very small camels that can fit through the needle's eye…
    ~ GOP Jesus, protesting Ryan's speech at Georgetown University, April 27, 2012, from Mother Jones

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    "If Paul Ryan knew what poverty was, he wouldn't be giving this speech."
    ~ James Salt, the executive director of Catholics United quoted Here

    Paul Ryan's Catholicism probably calls communion a "hand out."
    ~ Lizz Winstead, Satirist and co-creator of the Daily Show on Twitter

    Paul Ryan Says He Takes His Inspiration from St Thomas Aquinas, Who 1st Proposed Hedge Fund Managers Should Pay Lower Taxes than You in 1268.
    ~ The Daily Edge on Twitter

    The truth is that the filler modern food manufacturers add to their products may be disgusting — think pink slime — but it nonetheless has nutritional value. Mr. Ryan’s empty promises don’t. You should think of those promises, instead, as a kind of throwback to the 19th century, when unregulated corporations bulked out their bread with plaster of paris and flavored their beer with sulfuric acid.
    Come to think of it, that’s precisely the policy era Mr. Ryan and his colleagues are trying to bring back.
    ~ Economist Paul Krugman in the New York Times

    Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

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