Showing posts with label crisis. Show all posts
Showing posts with label crisis. Show all posts

Monday, February 15, 2016

Justice Scalia Dies ~ GOP May Never Recover

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The death of Antonin Scalia is "YUGE" for the Presidential Primaries as well as for the fate of our country. He died while President Obama still has many months to go as President, and all Democrats are eager for the conservative Justice to be replaced with someone younger and liberal. However, the Republicans in the Senate including leader Mitch McConnell immediately stated they would not cooperate in confirming a successor to Scalia, once again hoping to obstruct progress for the President.

There are also questions surrounding Scalia's death at a remote shooting ranch in Texas that will feed into the paranoia of conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones for years to come. In fact, Alex Jones has already called it a "murder," and implicated the President as somehow involved.

The death was announced just before a GOP Primary Debate on CBS-TV, and from the out-of-control behavior on the stage, it's obvious the candidates were thrown for a loop by the news.

While many in Washington and the legal community strained to say nice things about the dead man, my reaction like many others was "Ding Dong the Bigot is Dead!" There's no point in sugar-coating his life or opinions when he was so quick to attack every possible group in the U.S. and make laws to oppress them.



From the Washington Post
. . . “It wasn’t a heart attack,” Guevara said. “He died of natural causes.”
In a statement Sunday, the U.S. Marshals Service, which provides security for Supreme Court justices, said Scalia had declined a security detail while at the ranch, so marshals were not present when he died. “Deputy U.S. Marshals from the Western District of Texas responded immediately upon notification of Justice Scalia’s passing,” the statement said.

. . . Scalia joined about 35 other people invited by Poindexter, who declined to name the other guests.
Later that day, Scalia went out with the group to hunt blue quail. But “he did not exert himself,” Poindexter said. “He got out of the hunting vehicle, and walked around some.’’
Law enforcement officials said Scalia attended a private party that night with the other guests, and left to go to bed early. But Poindexter said that didn’t seem unusual: All of the guests were tired from traveling to the remote ranch, as well as the day’s other activities. Everyone was in bed by 10 p.m., he said.
. . . The next morning, Scalia did not show up for breakfast. Poindexter at first thought he might be sleeping late, but eventually grew concerned. Late Saturday morning, he and one other person knocked on the door to Scalia’s room, an expansive suite called the “El Presidente.” When there was no answer, they went inside.
“Everything was in perfect order. He was in his pajamas, peacefully, in bed,” Poindexter said.

From RightWingWatch
(Conspiracy Theoriest Alex) Jones said that “this is the season of treason, this is the time of betrayal and we would be fools not to ask the question” if Scalia was assassinated, suggesting that bad actors may have slipped something into the justice’s drink to trigger a heart attack.



























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Friday, July 11, 2014

Oops! Rick Perry Looks Like Grumpy Cat

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When Governor Rick Perry of Texas found out that President Obama was going to visit his state, he vowed he would never meet him at the airport or shake his hand. He wasn't going to do that because when Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey shook hands with Obama after Hurricane Sandy, it knocked Christie off the list for future GOP Presidential candidates, at least as far as the Tea Party was concerned. They call Christie a RINO (Republican in Name Only) to this day.

So Rick Perry wasn't going to do that. No Way! Nuh-uh.

Except, then he did. They met, shook hands, smiled. Oops.

So to make up for being an adult Governor and meeting the President of the United States with a handshake, Perry decided to put on a serious face for their meeting. Verrrry SERIOUS. Maybe he was trying to hard because he made a face that reminds everyone of the "Grumpy Cat" meme. This ridiculous photo will haunt him for the rest of his career.

Also, Perry couldn't bully the President into visiting the Border with him, so he went out on a boat in the Rio Grande with Sean Hannity from Fox News. They are wearing bullet-proof vests and holding big machine guns as if they are going to hunt down all these five-year-olds and their mothers and shoot them. Another mistake on his part, if Perry really wants to be President of the whole country and not just the anti-immigrant Fox-loving Gun Nuts. But then, they are the only ones who would EVER vote for Rick Perry. That man will never be President.

Who wants Grumpy Cat for President? Oops.

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Gov. Rick Perry thinks Obama is Sending Small Children to the Texas Border



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Monday, July 7, 2014

Gov. Rick Perry Thinks Obama is Sending Small Children to Mexican Border

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Rick Perry in his hipster-retro glasses reminds me of 1950s TV icon Rod Serling, and on the Sunday talk show "This Week" he jumped right in to the Twilight Zone by blaming the current border crisis on President Obama. Never mind that George W. Bush signed a law saying all people coming from non-contiguous Latin American countries have to be "processed" by immigration at the border. No, according to Governor Perry, Obama somehow rigged the system so all these small children would show up and we would have to take them in. Cue Twilight Zone music...

"For Your Inspection" as Rod Serling used to say . . .



From ABC - "This Week" July 6, 2014

Martha RADDATZ: -- but Governor, this -- this is about a law. This isn't necessarily about Border Patrol. This is about a law. You heard in Jim Avila's piece, they have to let these people into the country when they're from non-contiguous nations, when they're from Central America or South America.

Should that law be changed?

PERRY: The rule of law is that "The Constitution" requires the United States to secure the border. And we're not doing that. We haven't done it for years. And we are paying a huge price.

 When you have catch and release policies that send...

 RADDATZ: But -- but, Governor, please...

 PERRY: -- a message to people...

 RADDATZ: -- go back to the law...

 PERRY: -- in Central America...

 RADDATZ: -- the 2008 law that was signed into law by George Bush.

Isn't this is a backlog in the courts?

Doesn't that have to be addressed first?

Gov. Rick PERRY: What has to be addressed is the security of the border. You know that. I know that. The president of the United States knows that. I don't believe he particularly cares whether or not the border of the United States is -- is secure.

And that's the reason there's been this lack of effort, this lack of focus, this lack of resources...

MARTHA RADDATZ: He's telling people not to come.

PERRY: -- and...

RADDATZ: He's telling them in ads not to come into the United States, not to leave their homes.

PERRY: About -- about five years too late would be my response to that. The president has sent powerful messages time after time...

RADDATZ: You know, Governor...

PERRY: -- by his policies, by nuances, that it is OK to come to the United States and you can come across and you'll be accepted in open arms. That is the real issue.

RADDATZ: But, Governor, you've made -- I -- I want to go back to an interview you did on Fox News. You re--- you recently made some pretty serious allegations against the federal government.

Let's -- let's listen to what you said to Fox News.

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PERRY: The federal government is just absolutely failing. We either have an incredibly inept administration, or they're in on this somehow or another. I mean I hate to be conspiratorial, but I mean how do you move that many people from Central America across Mexico and then into the United States without there being a fairly coordinated effort?

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RADDATZ: Governor, do you really believe there's some sort of conspiracy to get people into the United States by the federal government, by the Obama administration?

PERRY: When I have -- when I have written a letter that is dated May of 2012, and I have yet to have a response from this administration, I will tell you they either are inept or don't care, and that is my position.

We have been bringing to the attention of President Obama and his administration since 2010, he received a letter from me on the tarmac. He sends -- I have to believe that when you do not respond in any way, that you are either inept, or you have some ulterior motive of which you are functioning from.

So the issue is, this president understands now that we have a huge problem on our southern border. We have to deal with it. And I don't think you're going to be able to address it until you put the resources there, and that's boots on the ground. We're asking for the FAA to allow for drones to be used.

Unless we secure our southern border, this is going to continue to be a massive amount of individuals that are coming to the United States. And, frankly, we don't have a place to house them as it is. And if we have a major event, a hurricane that comes in to the Gulf Coast, I don't have a place to be housing people who are displaced.

RADDATZ: OK, governor, I'm going to have to stop you there.

PERRY: This administration is housing them.

RADDATZ: I'm going to have to stop you there. But thank you very much for joining us.

PERRY: Martha, thank you. Yes, ma'am.









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Saturday, June 7, 2014

False Flag Nation

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There's a Sheryl Crow song called "Every Day is a Winding Road" and that line pretty much sums up the twists and turns of conspiracy theorists. Nothing is ever what it seems. Truth is an illusion. Their favorite song should be "Everything is a False Flag," which means that for any given news story, it can be explained away as an event staged with actors to make a political point.

The "flag" in the name refers to Naval Warfare in which a ship will fly the flag of another country to sneak up on the enemy. Espionage groups all over the world allegedly "stage" false flag operations to confuse or cast doubt on other countries.

For a modern origin, False Flaggers point to something called "Operation Northwoods."



In the U.S., the biggest "Mother-of-All False Flag" conspiracy theory could be the idea that the Bush Administration "staged" the September 11 attack in 2001. Countless websites and books are devoted to the idea that George Bush himself gave the order to implode the Twin Towers, and that there never was a plane crash at the Pentagon. The 3000 victims were collateral damage in a bigger plan by Cheney and Rumsfeld to justify going back to Iraq to conquer the country, and steal their oil. Bush went along with it so he could finish what his father started with the first Gulf War by capturing Baghdad and killing Saddam Hussein. With a war already going in Afghanistan, America didn't want another war front, so to convince Congress the Bushies invented imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction or WMDs that Saddam didn't actually have. That part of the story is true and confirmed by then-Sec. of State Colin Powell, which proves to False Flaggers that the rest of it must be true.

Others blame the "Zionist Conspiracy" - the idea that Israel set up 9-11 so that the U.S. would wage war on Muslims all over the world.

And of course, while Bush never captured Osama, his army did capture Baghdad and Saddam Hussein, and he managed to install the Patriot Act, a type of draconian law in which we are supposed to be afraid of our own shadows, see every Muslim as a terrorist, while the government remains an ally to Israel. To the false-flaggers, that partial truth means that EVERYTHING has to be true!

Even today you can find "9-11 Truthers" on Twitter:









These days false flag theories get their start on far-right radio with people like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck who are paranoid and think they see government propaganda black-operations going on every time something happens. The people who believe False Flag reports are known as "Truthers," which is sort of a take-off on "Birthers" - the anti-Obama crowd who believe that everything about his life is a manufactured lie, from his birth certificate to his college degree to the way he governs. These theories are fueled mostly by hatred and the GOP has used the ideas to fire up the base and view the President as "the other" - some exotic, un-American creature.

The False Flag meme blames everything on Obama, even horrible school shootings, terrorism, and bad weather. The nutters believe that Obama is creating a false reality to frighten people into passing his programs, such as gun control and climate change. And sometimes, as with Obamacare, the GOP fought against it so long, they are just in denial about how successful it is. Oh, and also Benghazzzziii!!!

For instance, read these previous posts:

The Boston Marathon Bombing = False Flag
Success of Obamacare is a Lying False Flag
Obama has a Tornado Machine
Obama lied about Benghazi Emails

Here's a compilation of Alex Jones on The Boston Bombing:



The most recent spate of False Flaggers are sympathizers with the National Rifle Association. You could say they have a persecution complex, believing that Obama is still going to grab their guns, even though he hasn't made one move to do it in almost seven years. These gun-lovers were behind the theory that the Newtown/Sandy Hook Elementary shooting was a staged event to drum up gun control support - and of course they blame Obama:
The Sandy Hook Truthers - Shooting was Staged with "Crisis Actors"

Recently a Sandy Hook Truther got into trouble for continuing to harass the parents of a victim, even stealing a sign that had been erected at a playground to honor the child. The man was hunted down and caught by police after he sent pictures of the sign to the blog The Daily Banter. Kudos to Bob Cesca and Chez Pazienza for helping to catch this creepy guy!





Chez Pazienza on The Daily Banter
Police have told us that The Daily Banter‘s reporting on the story was instrumental in catching 28-year-old Andrew David Truelove and bringing the case to a close.

As we reported here last week, someone claiming to have stolen the signs contacted me and e-mailed pictures of the missing panels, boasting that he had taken them and then called the families of both McDonnell and Kowalski to taunt them by saying that their children had never actually existed and the Sandy Hook massacre was nothing but a hoax. I passed along all the information this person had sent me to the police department in Stonington, Conn., which was working the case. I’ve been in contact with detectives there several times since.

It turns out the photos that we received were loaded with metadata, including geotags, which led Stonington to contact Herndon, where many of the pictures were apparently taken. Police there tracked the geotags to the home seen in the photos we posted last week, which was actually a small unit rented by someone named Alan J. Truelove. They obtained a warrant and this morning arrested Truelove, the father of the man suspected of being the actual sign thief, Andrew David Truelove. While the elder Truelove hasn’t been charged with anything yet, since he denies knowing the signs in his home were stolen, while being questioned he apparently asked the police how they could be sure the Sandy Hook shooting had really happened. So, yes, it looks like he’s a Sandy Hook truther just like his son.

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The NRA crowd seems to be coming up with a new False Flag theory a day:

Some of them believe Elliot Rodger, the Isla Vista California shooter who documented at length his own plans to kill women who wouldn't sleep with him, was just a cog in the wheel of Obama's Gun Control Plan:













A gun found at Target in the children's department was put there by the Gun Control group Moms Demand Action to cause an incident so the #NRA will back down on allowing Open Carry in their stores. Yeah, that makes sense - NOT.







A shooting at the Forsyth Georgia County Courthouse was staged to slam both gun lovers and "Sovereign Citizens" - a type of Libertarian who believes the federal government has no jurisdiction, such as Cliven Bundy.



And finally, here's one in Canada - the New Brunswick shooting of three Mounties:












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Tuesday, March 4, 2014

Putin Shambles on Ukraine - With Bizarro-World Press Conference

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Wow, I think today will go down in Russian history, filed under "bizarre."

From Julia Ioffe in The Nation
Slouching in a fancy chair in front of a dozen reporters, Putin squirmed and rambled. And rambled and rambled. He was a rainbow of emotion: Serious! angry! bemused! flustered! confused! So confused. Victor Yanukovich is still the acting president of Ukraine, but he can't talk to Ukraine because Ukraine has no president. Ukraine needs elections, but you can't have elections because there is already a president. And no elections will be valid given that there is terrorism in the streets of Ukraine. And how are you going to let just anyone run for president? What if some nationalist punk just pops out like a jack-in-the-box? An anti-Semite? Look at how peaceful the Crimea is, probably thanks to those guys with guns holding it down. Who are they, by the way?
. . . Today's Putin was nervous, angry, cornered, and paranoid, periodically illuminated by flashes of his own righteousness. Here was an authoritarian dancing uncomfortably in his new dictator shoes, squirming in his throne.

























































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Sunday, January 13, 2013

Treasury Rejects Coin Solution to Debt Ceiling Conundrum

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From Ezra Klein on Washington Post
The Treasury Department will not mint a trillion-dollar platinum coin to get around the debt ceiling. If they did, the Federal Reserve would not accept it.
That’s the bottom line of the statement that Anthony Coley, a spokesman for the Treasury Department, gave me today. “Neither the Treasury Department nor the Federal Reserve believes that the law can or should be used to facilitate the production of platinum coins for the purpose of avoiding an increase in the debt limit,” he said.

Official White House Statement on Huff Post
There are only two options to deal with the debt limit: Congress can pay its bills or they can fail to act and put the nation into default," said Press Secretary Jay Carney. "When Congressional Republicans played politics with this issue last time putting us at the edge of default, it was a blow to our economic recovery, causing our nation to be downgraded. The President and the American people won't tolerate Congressional Republicans holding the American economy hostage again simply so they can force disastrous cuts to Medicare and other programs the middle class depend on while protecting the wealthy. Congress needs to do its job.

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With this, the White House has now ruled out the two best options for preventing a default in the event that the House GOP refused to life the debt ceiling. The White House has been quite adamant that the other alternative (invoking the 14th Amendment) is not acceptable.
So now the stakes are high, as The White House has refused to negotiate with the GOP on a debt ceiling hike.
What bargaining chips does The White House hold? Unclear.
~ Joe Weisenthal on Business Insider

. . . the last debt ceiling confrontation crept up on the White House because Obama refused to believe that Republicans would actually threaten to provoke default. Is the WH being realistic this time, or does it still rely on the sanity of crazies?
The thing is, the coin option sounds silly, but it clearly obeys the letter of the law. As far as I can tell, none of the other options — other than outright surrender — has the same virtue.
. . . And default in any of these senses would risk a huge collapse of confidence.
So is there a plan, or will it just be another case of tough talk followed by a tail-between-the-legs retreat?
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Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Obama Should "Mint the Coin" to Avoid Debt Crisis

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Update: Nine Faces of the Platinum Coin from Talking Points Memo

...A stalwart band of merrymakers are finding a lot of fun Monday in the concept of a giant platinum coin.
~ Denny Gulino, MNI Financial News

From Joe Weisenthal on Business Insider
So where does the Trillion Dollar Platinum Coin fit in?
In the section of the law which specifically relates to the Treasury's ability to create money (coins and bills) section K says this:
(k) The Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion coins and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.
In other words, when it comes to platinum coins, the Secretary (who is currently Tim Geithner) has discretion on the designs, specifications, quantities, and denominations of platinum coinage.
So let's say, Tim Geithner decided to stamp out a $1 trillion coin. What does that accomplish?
The idea is that after it was created, Geithner could walk it over to the Federal Reserve, and deposit it in the Treasury's bank account. Then the Treasury, rather than having to issue new debt (because remember, Congress hasn't raised the limit) can make sure its checks clear against this money.
Voila, crisis averted!



Funny Money
Imagine sitting around the kitchen table, trying to figure out how you're going to pay off that next-generation HDTV you just bought.
Then someone has an idea. Brush off one of the old checker pieces in the attic, assign it a value of, say, $2,000 -- and use that newly minted "coin" to pay the credit card.
~ Fox News

I don't think there's even a remote chance that any court in the country would uphold a Treasury reading of this law that used it as a pretense for minting a $1 trillion coin.
. . . This whole notion is the kind of thing that Herman Cain would come up with. It's time to stop treating it seriously.
~ Kevin Drum on Mother Jones

. . . There is a Twitter hashtag – #mintthecoin – and a wan, spindly White House petition created on January 3 that needs around 25,000 signatures and currently has just under 2,000, which makes it resemble the winsomely pathetic Charlie Brown Christmas tree.
. . . This is an elegant solution – if you are a cartoon villain given to sitting in a vast underground bunker and innovating plans for world domination while petting a white cat. It makes less sense for real mortals. In fact, it has all the aspects of a group of well-financed mad scientists plotting to create a giant slingshot to avert an asteroid hurtling towards the earth.
~ Heidi Moore on Guardian UK

There’s exactly zero chance that the House Republicans, faced with the Coin Threat, will suddenly turn logical and decide that they’re not going to play political games around the debt ceiling after all. Rather, the Coin Threat is a political game, played by the other side: it’s the executive branch bringing itself down to the House Republicans’ level.
If you believe that the country is best run by grown-ups, you can’t believe in #mintthecoin, because it simply isn’t a grown-up strategy.
~ Felix Salmon on Reuters

My bill will take the coin scheme off the table by disallowing Treasury to mint platinum coins as a way to pay down the debt.
~ Congressman Greg Walden, R-Oregon, on a bill in which he wants to make it illegal to mint coins to pay the national debt























"That's silly/zany/juvenile!" This is probably true, but it's not a dispositive objection. Republican intransigence over the debt ceiling is juvenile. There is no particular reason that the president should not use a juvenile strategy in response.
The key question to ask about the platinum coin is not "is it juvenile?" but "will it work?" Minting the coin will allow the federal government to continue to meet its spending obligations despite hitting the debt ceiling. It will allow President Barack Obama to pressure Congress to repeal the debt ceiling. That -- not whether it seems silly -- is the important thing.
~ Josh Barro on Bloomberg



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Should President Obama be willing to print a $1 trillion platinum coin if Republicans try to force America into default? Yes, absolutely. He will, after all, be faced with a choice between two alternatives: one that’s silly but benign, the other that’s equally silly but both vile and disastrous. The decision should be obvious.
. . . Enter the platinum coin. There’s a legal loophole allowing the Treasury to mint platinum coins in any denomination the secretary chooses. Yes, it was intended to allow commemorative collector’s items — but that’s not what the letter of the law says. And by minting a $1 trillion coin, then depositing it at the Fed, the Treasury could acquire enough cash to sidestep the debt ceiling — while doing no economic harm at all.
So why not?
~ Paul Krugman

There are two possible trump cards for Obama. One is the “platinum coin” option, in which the government mints a trillion-dollar coin and uses it to pay its debts... There’s also the 14th Amendment option, which some legal observers believe empowers the President to ignore the debt ceiling.
. . . Obama appears cool to both ideas. But Scott Wagner, a former NYPD homicide detective with extensive experience negotiating hostage crises, says the President needs to at least hint at a willingness to pursue an alternative endgame. A hostage negotiator needs to persuade a hostage taker that he is totally isolated and that the negotiator is the only one who holds the key to his way out — that “deep down, he is not in control of the situation.”
Greg Sargent on Washington Post








Petition on WhiteHouse.Gov
Direct the United States Mint to make a single platinum trillion dollar coin!

With the creation and Treasury deposit of a new platinum coin with a value of $1 trillion US Dollars, we would avert the absurd-yet-imminent debt ceiling faceoff in Congress in two quick and simple steps! While this may seem like an unnecessarily extreme measure, it is no more absurd than playing political football with the US -- and global -- economy at stake.
Created: Jan 03, 2013
Issues: Economy
Learn about Petition Thresholds
Signatures needed by February 02, 2013 to reach goal of 25,000
18,882
Total signatures on this petition
6,118

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Saturday, December 1, 2012

Peggy Noonan Blames Obama for Drama-Rama Over Taxes

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Republican Pundit Peggy Noonan on Wall Street Journal Nov. 30, 2012
You watch and wonder: Why does it always have to be cliffs with this president? Why is it always a high-stakes battle? Why doesn't he shrewdly re-enact Ronald Reagan, meeting, arguing and negotiating in good faith with Speaker Tip O'Neill, who respected very little of what the president stood for and yet, at the end of the day and with the country in mind, could shake hands and get it done? Why is there never a sense with Mr. Obama that he understands the other guys' real position?

It's not as if Mr. Boehner and the Republicans wouldn't deal. They've been weakened and they know it.

. . . No one would know this better than Mr. Boehner, who has risen to where he is in part because he's good at seeing the lay of the land and admitting what's there.

The president would only benefit from showing he has the command and capability to meet, argue, press and come to agreement. It would be heartening to the country to see this, and would impress the world. And the Republicans would like to get it done.

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WSJ's Noonan: Crisis Is the Obama Way
~ Headline on Newsmax

Listen Peggy, elections have consequences. One of those consequences is that the losing side does not get to make demands like they won. You lost, Peggy. Badly. And unlike Bush’s 2004 Social Security bait and switch (which failed miserably), Obama is doing exactly what he campaigned on. You’ll take whatever you’re damn well given and like it!
Just as an aside: Notice that Peggy says Obama “wanted to raise taxes on those he calls the rich” as if people making over $250,000 are not rich? And this is not a tax raise on that first $250k anyway, it’s everything AFTER $250k. The median household income for 2012 was $50,054. If you’re making FIVE TIMES as much and still complaining you’re not rich? F**k. You.
~ Justin Rosario on Addicting Info



Tighten the squeeze on that couple, and they'll change how they live. They'll stop sending the struggling son to a neighborhood tutor, they'll stop going out to dinner once a week, they'll cut off the baby sitter, fire the guy who once a month does yard work, and hold back on new clothes.
~ Peggy Noonan





Of course, Peggy Noonan doesn't really want to know why everything always seems like a crisis. She just wants to create a rhetorical framework to make Republican behavior seem reasonable. The problem for her is that reality keeps on getting in the way.
~ Jed Lewison on Daily Kos

Peggy Noonan - Professional Concern Troll
~ comment by Beelzebud on Daily Kos

Just tell Peggy that the vibrations aren't right for Obama to negotiate against himself. She ought to understand that.
~ comment by litigatormom on Daily Kos referring to this column Noonan wrote the day before Election 2012 predicting a landslide for Romney because "all the vibrations are right."

MY GOD, it's official: they have sunk deeper and deeper and deeper into their DENIAL.
They have learned nothing from 6 November 2012.
They - can't HELP themselves now. They cannot come back to reality (assuming they ever were there, and with Noonan that is a BIG if).
Stunning.
~ comment by CoExistNow on Daily Kos

ooo ooo! pick me! pick me! i know the answer! because Tip O'Neill was:
• an honest man of integrity willing to put country first (ahead of partisan purity),
• a patriotic man who cared about what was best for the US as a whole,
and
• a smart man who understood that compromise is a necessary part of the political process;
and
• those three phrases do not describe Boehner (or McConnell)!
I know I'm right! What do I win???
~ comment by TrueBlueMajority on Daily Kos

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